Thank you Barbara for sharing this. It gives me hope.
LITS
http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.
stephanie fessler v watch tower.
stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.
Thank you Barbara for sharing this. It gives me hope.
LITS
last april, the pa attorney general’s office established a toll-free phone number for survivors of child sex abuse (who were pa residents, or were abused by someone in pa) to call if they wanted to file a report of being sexually abused or molested as a child under 18 no matter how long ago the abuse happened or no matter who committed the abuse.. .
the ag’s office is asking victims from all the places/institutions and all the alleged criminals that have literally gotten away with soul murder.
hopefully, the ag’s office will be able to take further steps to expose the criminals and the criminal institutions that aided and abetted the perps.. .
I have spoken to Barbara Dorris just a couple of months ago and she is truly a wonderful person. I wish her the best. I cannot say enough good about her.
LITS
many of you don't know me or won't remember me.
i left the jw's and my husband and my home last september - forging a new life in a new town.
i haven't posted here for many months, but have been reading most days.
Happy B-day, 71 is the new 61 so here's to many great years to come and sorry I am not tech savy but I will send you a cake.
LITS
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
I love this and there is nothing that anyone on this board can do to stop it no matter how many post's they use to derail it.
I just so want for the WT to change their policies and protect the children. This makes my day.
LITS
what i sense from the conversations of my family members and relatives who are jws is that at least some jws are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of god’s name,” “vindication of his sovereignty” etc.
they begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.. this is a good sign.
it shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries.
I was with a group of JW's 2 weeks ago and I noticed the same thing. I was more up on what was going on then they were and some of these are hard core JW's. I knew the name of the GB members and they did not have a clue who they were. I said but we see them every month on JW broadcasting and they looked blankly at me. I honestly wonder if they watch it, They are busy with life and it just seemed like it is a religion to them.
I also wanted to add that I have been accused of having two different accounts on this board. I do because I have tried and tired and tried to get my phone to sign into my home computer account and I somehow started a new account on my phone. I just noticed a very paranoid poster who thinks I am doing something wrong and trying to stalk him, which in reality he is doing to me always following the posts I am on. I sign myself off the same way. I really think that the JW part of people never leaves them, like the paranoia thing. I mean seriously. I am sure he will be reading this as everywhere I go he is there. He think I am in love with him, kind of creepy.
Now getting back to the subject, OTWO really hit the nail on the head with "They have morphed into "Jehovah loves us, Jesus loves us. Christianity is wrong." that is basically what this family I was with said, and that is what they are teaching their children.
It was really strange. LITS
Outlaw I am so glad you are on this board, you always make me laugh.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
I also honestly wonder if Landy and RO work for the WT. I mean the way they use their reasoning is just the same way the elder's in my hall used toward me when they allowed the child molesters to hold and take care of children.
I think this is why I have gotten sucked into Landy's insane web. He reminds me exactly of one of the elder's I talked to, name calling, belittling, etc.
Why would anyone use the reasoning that Landy and RO are using unless they work for the WT. Funny both of them especially RO came on this board right about the time that the newspaper and TV ad's started to run, Landy had been on longer but it would make total sense for the WT to put people on this board to down play those ad's which both Landy and RO have totally done. The WT is afraid of those ad's you know it and both Landy and RO trashed and destroyed any thread that had to do with them.
It really makes you wonder.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Rebelfighter you are falling into Landy's trap just like I did last weekend.
This person is all about debating and swearing and belittling, destroying threads, downplaying, insulting and fighting with everyone who does not view the world the way he/she does.
He/she is totally on the side of the WT along with with his buddy RO
It really is insane when I step back and look at he/she Landy, this person is so illiterate that he/she does not know that there are such broadcasting networks here in the US such at NPR and PBS yet Landy admitted that he/she spent the weekend watching the West Wing a show made in the US.
I know Landy gets many people worked up and that his and RO's goal. To down play the seriousness of child rape in the JW religion.
I beg of everyone instead of debating Landy and RO to just Google Trey Bundy and watch him on PBS and then listen to his report on Reveal from December of 2016 less than 8 weeks ago.
I honestly am not faulting anyone for debating Landy as I just got sucked back in. But all he will do is swear and belittle and insult you, he does not want the facts just his opinion and view.
This is just to huge of a crime to allow Landy and RO to have their way.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
If anyone doubts what I mean about Landy just watch his come back at me, he will belittle me, insult me and swear at me. He will use all kinds of vile language at me. And if he does not do that he will be supper condescending toward me and put me down
It just proves my point that Landy and RO have an agenda for the WT and if anyone dares to disagree with them watch out.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Landy spent the whole weekend swearing at me and call me all kind's of degrading name and trying his best to derail anything that I or anyone else said on this subject that was not to his liking, Please I beg of everyone to take this seriously and not let Landy and his buddy have their way..
According to SNAP and the research that they have done for every victim that has the courage to come forward and report a rape or molestation there are 9 other victims that do not have the courage to do that.
RO said very clearly on Tuesday what his agenda is "I will go away when everyone stops lying about Watchtower."
RO is clearly on the side of the WT.
Landy refuses to believe that there is even a broadcasting network here in the US called PSB as you can see by his comment here
why did Trey Bundy from NPR, and PBS just do reports on them
Who?"
Seriously this person Landy openly admitted that he had not heard of NPR or PBS and everyone takes what he say as points to consider.
This is how he feels about this subject from his own words
"I think you give them too much credit. Humanity doesn't give be a shit about the JWs - thankfully they're insignificant. To everyone that isn't a witness or ex-witness they're a bunch of slighty odd but generally nice people who disturb them on a Sunday morning.
If you asked 100 people if they had heard of the AR commission, I would be amazed if even one had."
The misspelled word is his not my as he jumped all over me for a word that my phone misspelled but I digress.
Please I beg of everyone to Listen to NPR and Trey Bundy on Reveal, It was just done in December of 2016 less than 8 weeks ago. Watch PBS from last year with Trey Bundy, contact SNAP.
Please do not let ones like RO and Landy keep debating this subject. To Landy this is just a huge joke that he is getting is sick kicks out of by belittling and insulting ones who have been harmed and injured to the point that many commit suicide.
This is one of Landy's responses to me over the weekend. .
I'll tell you what - I'll do a quick survey at work tomorrow. I'll ask a few if they've heard of a Trey Bundy or SNAP. I work with some pretty well educated people including PhDs and Chartered Engineers. It should be a good litmus test. I'll report back with the results..
It just so how uneducated and ignorant you are and the fact that you refuse to even look it up says volumes about what you have posted and your slamming, belittling and insulting me
It's you're btw. Or put an of in between insulting and me. I wouldn't have mentioned it normally but seeing as you've called me uneducated and ignorant....
Or this one
"you are totally unhinged aren't you? Nuttier than squirrel shit."
Or this one
"Hey, I've spent the day watching season 7 of The West Wing and annoying you. What's not to like"
This sums up what Landy and RO are about, Debating and derailing, casing page after page of belittling remarks toward those who disagree with him, refusing to look at proven facts or like that PBS and NPR even exist while he watches the West Wing.
This subject of child rape. Children being harmed for the rest of their lives because of the JW's and their policies is to huge to allow ones like Landy and RO to down play.
LITS